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The origami tower — meant to be first step to new Vancouver waterfront — sparks debate over both tower and waterfront

February 3rd, 2015 · 7 Comments

Been a lot happening recently, so I’m catching up here and packaging a few things together since things are sometimes changing daily in the fast-paced civics world these days.

First up, the “origami” tower came to the urban design panel, where it was not supported in a 4-2 vote. My story here.

For those not familiar with how the UDP works, it is not like the development-permit board or board of variance or even council. The design panel is meant to allow local architects, engineers, and planning experts to give city staff some outside-the-hall feedback on major new projects coming forward. It’s more like an architecture grad-student studio than a judicial body. When a design is not supported, it means the advice is “Go and work on this a bit more.” It’s not a rejection.

And, for those who will be surprised when this comes back again, the panel expressed no discomfort with the height or density. Their major recommendations were to move the tower away from the train station, where it looks a bit like a Japanese horror-movie monster eating it, I have to say. And, since the plaza there has spectacular views of the water and mountains and should be a welcoming space for the public, they suggested making it even more accessible, possible even turning the lobby into a kind of passageway for general commuters on their way too and from the station.

The panel hearing also included a lot of discussion about whether this building fit in with the future waterfront of Vancouver, which was thrashed out six years in a planning document about the future Waterfront Hub.

That plan, which no one has talked about much since the idea of having a soccer stadium built over the tracks there fell apart, also alarmed some people — because of the new roads it envisioned for the area, the cluster of new towers and more. So I wrote about that in a follow-up story here. (As far as I can tell, these stories are available to non-subscribers in the link, but, if not, let me know.) Much more to hash over here. I had former city planning/design wizard Ralph Segal helping me understand some of the ramifications of the details. He’s written a couple of posts on this already here and on Gordon Price’s Pricetags blog.

Michael Alexander, the City Conversations convenor quoted in the story, called me later to clarify his remarks. Here’s what he had to say:

I am not opposed to the basic design of the building (though I think it can be improved, and overreaches in size— but that’s what developers do to get what they really want when the city protests). The problem is its location.
Waterfront Station is the hub of 10 major rail, sea and air corridors— the most concentrated and important in B.C. and one of the important regional transit centres in North America. Not once was transportation mentioned in the hearing. The building is being told to site a little to the east, a little to the west. But that parking lot needs to be the boarding location for major bus lines and taxis that then exit to the transit plaza in front of Waterfront Station which the Hub Study envisions. And the woefully underused Waterfront Station needs to become a place that attracts people, not one that they just pass through.
There is a place for that tower if some land swaps and infrastructure enhancements are brought into the conversation. I would hope that the city would be promoting that, and Cadillac Fairview is the kind of farsighted company that could entertain a broader vision. I don’t hold it against them that they are trying to build on land that they already own.

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7 responses so far ↓

  • 1 spartikus // Feb 3, 2015 at 6:37 pm

    I joked earlier that I’d like to see this turned into a open air Bavarian beer garden. But in a city without a true central square, isn’t this space, if the platform is extended north, the perfect spot for a civic square?

    View, centrality, and next to a major transit hub. A perfect spot for protesting The Man.

  • 2 Kirk // Feb 3, 2015 at 8:25 pm

    The building doesn’t fit in. But, so what? We’ve got monster houses everywhere. They don’t fit in either. If anything, the “Vancouver-style” is all about putting a giant monstrosity in a neighbourhood of heritage buildings. Maybe it’ll be unoccupied too!

  • 3 Kirk // Feb 3, 2015 at 8:26 pm

    Jack Poole plaza is nearby. Maybe not exactly what you’re thinking of, but it does host various civic functions.

  • 4 logan5 // Feb 3, 2015 at 10:56 pm

    The area in front of the Art Gallery has established itself I believe. They’re still building a square there aren’t they?

  • 5 MichaelHere // Feb 4, 2015 at 7:33 am

    jpp is owned by private interests or at least patrolled by security like it is, definitely not a public square.

  • 6 jolson // Feb 4, 2015 at 1:42 pm

    Water Front Station is a multi modal transportation hub that already includes a bus interface. This system operates entirely within city right of ways.

    The Hub plan is a proposal by the city planning department for the construction of a central transit hall of large urban scale, a grand enclosed sub-grade civic space located to the north of Waterfront Station.

    The issues with the plan lie with the ownership pattern of these lands, operating agreements with transit authorities, extraordinary development costs for transportation infrastructure and a lack of sponsorship.

    The plan could be adjusted to encourage waterfront development by the extension of Canada Way downward sloping to the waterfront road below which would then open up the shoreline for development by the Whitecaps, where for example they could find moorage for a new floating stadium.

    The “Oragami” proposal should not be constrained by right of ways that could well end up going nowhere.

    In addition if the view cones were to be relaxed the “Oragami” can become a higher city wide landmark for this very special node in our urban structure.

    There are many different ways for the city to develop at this location and potential messages that it can send to the rest of the world abound.

    Perhaps an international urban design competition sponsored by the City is in order?

  • 7 Internet made me obsolete // Feb 4, 2015 at 5:37 pm

    And if there’s a better way to influence policy than demos and riots I’d like to know it. Oh wait, there is. All you have to do is bribe them.

    Wide open, wind-swept, rain-soaked paved areas are not the right choice in this climate.