12 responses so far ↓

• 1 Sean // Sep 23, 2008 at 9:42 pm

  Frances, I was there for part of the count as a scrutineer – while those numbers you ask for can’t be tracked, anecdotally I’d confirm it wasn’t many people that voted for both.

  Since we were counting approximately 50 ballots at a time , what you did have at points was an eerie number of identical ballots (at one point literally 45 in a row) coming out of the box. This made the votes somewhat difficult to tally as our eyes had glazed over by then…

  Regardless of the different slates, mass identical ballots only came from one select group – the council slate that won. I will not speculate as to who was casting those votes.

• 2 lenova // Sep 23, 2008 at 9:44 pm

  I was one of those that voted for both Eby and Dhaliwal. My primary vote was for Eby, and chose Dhaiwal after much deliberation (it was him over Stevenson, whom I am sad to see nominated purely for being an incumbent).

• 3 clavio // Sep 23, 2008 at 11:50 pm

  This may fall on deaf ears – plus I realise it’s rather gauche to quote Wikipedia, but I object to being referred to as ‘caucasian’ in your Globe and Mail article. Please see:
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasian_race

• 4 jf // Sep 24, 2008 at 1:52 am

  Andrea Reimer was not on the Louie slate. She teamed up with Jang and Dhaliwal, and although the other two were on the Louie slate Reimer was not.

• 5 ptak604 // Sep 24, 2008 at 3:02 am

  I was a scrutineer, and I saw a lot of Eby/Dhaliwal votes (as well as adding my own into that mix). A few hundred, for sure, and I was by no means watching at every count table. I don’t think that undercuts your thesis, however, as there weren’t as many as, say, Eby/Evans or Dhaliwal/Jang. The different currents are coming together (the Jang/Reimer/Dhaliwal slate showed up a lot, for example), but aren’t there yet.

  As a final note, Dave was on a slate card with Catherine Evans.

• 6 macadavy // Sep 24, 2008 at 3:33 am

  I, too, had both on my ballot – and I’m disappointed both didn’t make it. The Indo-Canadian community in Vancouver has not been successful at a municipal level, despite good success federally and provincially.
  And the Downtown Eastside desperately needs a voice at City Hall, despite having Libby Davies federally and Jennie Kwan provincially – that’s not enough. Just one more argument for a ward system in Vancouver, IMHO.

• 7 ptak604 // Sep 24, 2008 at 4:08 am

  Feel free to remove that last line in my above post pending confirmation from either candidate that my statement was factual.

• 8 ptak604 // Sep 24, 2008 at 2:26 pm

  There were at least 2 very common slates (ie showed up on many hundreds-thousands of abllots)-one that was the incumbents + Jang, Dhaliwal, Meggs and Harrison, and one that was the switched out Harrison for Reimer. Reimer’s slate of seven showed up a lot as well, with many different 8th choices (and Eby was on a bunch of those, which made up the majority of Eby/Dhaliwal votes I saw). There were also a whole host of less common, though clearly visible slate patterns showing up

• 9 vote counter // Sep 24, 2008 at 3:04 pm

  There were too many slates to keep track of, in my opinion, and I thought only the Reimer-Jang-Dhaliwal one was official; the rest just seemed like endorsements rather than any coordinated campaigning.

  Unlike ptak, I didn’t notice many incumbents plus Harrison-Dhaliwal-Jang-Meggs ballots. The Reimer slate with Eby was common; her voting suggestions for the 8th spot included Eby, Meggs and two others (can’t remember who).

• 10 Rick // Sep 24, 2008 at 8:36 pm

  Where were these 8th vote suggestions by Reimer? I delivered literature for her and didn’t see any sort of suggestion. Was this something that was being handed out at the door? Was it on her website? I didn’t see it there!

• 11 annonymous // Sep 24, 2008 at 10:04 pm

  I think the point about the slate recommendations is that some strong candidates didn’t run for office this way and some did. Some voters might have followed the recommendations, some might not have… (I did notice that all her choices were “Leaders, Experts” as opposed to being mere “Community organizers, or activists” and at least one of them is a lawyer…

  Handed out at all entrances to Sir Charles Tupper, all day, by her supporters, who yelled”Andrea Reimer’s Cheat Sheet!:

  (it was blue in colour, like the ballot paper, and had a photo of her on it)

  “Andrea Reimer’s RECOMMENDATIONS FOR CITY COUNCIL
  NOTE: YOU MUST MARK EXACTLY EIGHT (8) NAMES, OR YOUR BALLOT WILL NOT COUNT
  Andrea recommends the following SEVEN (7) choices:

  X (in box) CHOW, George
  Elected City Councillor

  X (in box) DEAL, Heather
  Elected City Councillor

  X (in box) DHALIWAL Kashmir
  Community Leader
  and Entrepreneur

  X (in box) JANG, Kerry
  Psychologist, Expert on addiction and homelessness

  X (in box) LOUIE, Raymond
  Elected City Councillor

  X (in box) REIMER, Andrea
  Environmental Leader,
  former Green Party
  School Board Trustee

  X (in box) STEVENSON, Tim
  Elected City Councilor”

  [on other half of the page…]

  “For your remaining choice, Andrea recommends that your choose ONE (1) of the following:

  (box with no X) EBY, David
  Community organizer, housing advocate

  OR

  (box with no X) EVANS, Catherine
  Education advocate, community activist

  OR

  (box with no X) HARRISON, Heather
  College professor, sustainability advocate

  OR

  (box with no X) MEGGS, Geoff
  Social justice advocate, environmentalist

  NOTE YOU MUST MARK EXACTLY EIGHT (8) NAMES, OR YOUR BALLOT WILL NOT BE COUNTED”

• 12 RossK // Sep 25, 2008 at 3:42 am

  I’ve just got to say, as someone who is naive to the nuts and bolts part of the process, that I’m suprised that scrutineers/counters are not asked to treat the specifics of the count as confidential.

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